The Seattle Chill.

Seattle has a social reputation known as the “Seattle Chill“. The people who usually note this phenomenon are immigrants to Seattle. With my return to Orange County, California (where it is currently an unbelievable 65 degrees with clear skies and a wonderfully balmy sun), I am reminded of the asocial nature of Seattle. And, lo, more people have acknowledged my existence with eye contact, verbal greetings, or social smiles in the span of one hour in Orange County than in a week in Seattle. (Not randomized, not double-blinded, not placebo-controlled—make what you will of it. But you get my point.)

In addition to the reasons outlined in the Craigslist link above, some people have hypothesized that the stoic, ungreeting nature of Seattle-ites is due to its Scandinavian heritage. As I am unfamiliar with that topic, I am unable to comment further upon it. My personal theory for the “Seattle Chill” is based primarily on climate.

In Southern California, the sun shines and the weather is warm. It is November 21st and men are ambling about in board shorts and tee shirts. Young ladies are wearing skirts (that are too short for my tastes) and tank tops. Yes, there are the few people who are wearing cute knitted hats and scarves, but this is clearly for style purposes only. People generally show skin: Men have short and clean haircuts with limited, if any, facial hair; women pin their hair back or tuck it behind their ears; shoulders are bared; legs are shown; and toes are visible for all to see.

We look at each other.

In Seattle, the sun rarely shines and the weather is frequently wet and cold. It is November 21st and people are milling about in multiple layers, with one of the following on the surface: a hoodie, a North Face/Helly Hansen/REI/etc. Gortex jacket with a hood, or a trenchcoat with a hood (or at least a long lapel which can be flipped up). Those who carry umbrellas tend to carry them low to prevent water from dripping onto their bags and backs. Those who do not carry umbrellas are either wearing a hoodie (see above) or a hat that hovers over the eyes. Those who do not have a cover for their heads frequently look down to prevent raindrops/mist from collecting on their eyelashes and dribbling into their eyes.

We do not look at each other.

In Southern California, if one looks up, one will see the sun, tanned skin, and fashionable clothes… and perhaps catch a brilliant smile.

In Seattle, if one looks up, one will see grey clouds, rain, and people lolling about in dark, wet clothes… and perhaps catch an umbrella spoke in her eye.

What is there to look forward (or up) to in Seattle? Particularly when people are grousing about the rapidly waning hours of daylight (”greylight”)—not a smile to be seen anywhere!

And, thus, Seattle-ites train the “strap muscles” in their necks to direct their chins towards their chests and alas, there is no eye contact. There are no greetings. There are no acknowledgments of people, only tacit recognition of the disagreeable weather.

Hence, the Seattle Chill.

(Just to be clear, I have been outside already today and plan to spend some time at the beach this afternoon. One must generate as much vitamin D with the available sun while she can.)


21 Nov 2007 |



10 comments »


Maybe it’s the rain? Here in Calgary our primary crappy weather is snow, so I’d say that people still look at each other. I think you could test your theory in Vancouver - similar weather to Seattle, but different heritage. Enjoy the warm weather in Orange County!

Comment by Ada | 21 Nov 2007 @ 1:27pm



It was 63 here today. And we still all hate each other!

Comment by Justin Slotman | 21 Nov 2007 @ 2:31pm



As a native Seattleite (and great-grandson of Irish immigrants to the Seattle area) I blame it on the Californians. ;)

Comment by InThane | 21 Nov 2007 @ 6:01pm



Why this relentless pressure to be cheerful? This is a mecca for intense, artsy or computer nerd introverts whose gifts to the world may not be so trite as to “turn the world on with our smile.”

If you need validation from others to increase your sense of self-worth, maybe Seattle isn’t the place for you. If your friggin’ brilliant and don’t really give a crap what people think about you, you will feel right at home.

I’ve lived in Seattle since 1989, and love it.

Comment by Duggers | 21 Nov 2007 @ 6:44pm



You’re distancing yourself from Seattle in preparation for your move by looking for things to dislike about it.

Dislocation is painful even if you ‘dislike’ a place; don’t bother looking for reasons to muddy your memories.

Comment by Dymphna | 22 Nov 2007 @ 3:22am



… and in NY we make eye contact and greet each other warmly all the time. Happy Thanksgiving!

Comment by primer | 22 Nov 2007 @ 10:45am



Something which took a while to get used to (if you can) in Kentucky, is that people don’t look at you and smile. They look at you and start up a conversation, in which you may learn waaaay more than you wanted to know about their daughter, with her illegitimate child, her financial problems, and legal actions by and against her.

After a while it doesn’t seem shocking at all.

Comment by Greg P | 22 Nov 2007 @ 10:48am



First off, happy Thanksgiving.

… and, just to be clear, long time readers of this weblog know that I am fond of Seattle. I proposed this climate theory as a means of explaining the “Seattle Chill”… and nowhere in my post do I write that I dislike Seattle… or that people need to be cheerful… or that I am trying to distance myself from the Emerald City.

Observations need not be criticisms.

Comment by Maria | 22 Nov 2007 @ 11:06am



The ‘chill’ is very observable in northern parts of Britain, too. One knows when winter really sets in by the marked decrease in trivial interactions.

Comment by no-one in particular | 24 Nov 2007 @ 6:17am



As much as it pains me to say this, it’s essentially impossible to form any D3 from sunlight exposure at our latitude between the autumnal and vernal equinox; we just don’t have the UV intensity needed. You might want to consider an assay and then supplement with 2000-3000IU/day if needed. It’s one possible explanation for our incredibly high level of multiple sclerosis in the Seattle area.

Grim, huh? I thought I was doing OK, and I was 2 SD below median. I felt so…inadequate.

Eric, Pale and Wondering If Anybody Still Gets Rickets

Comment by Eric | 24 Nov 2007 @ 11:56am




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